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3-MeO-PCP is a dissociative drug in the arylcyclohexamine class. As the name suggests, it is related to PCP by the addition of a methoxy group. It is of similar potency, with doses in the 10mg region, but is more dissociative with less activity as a DRI. With a little luck, this will lead to less stimulation and mania, and therefore less of the crazy feats the PCP is infamous for.
The first mentions of 3-MeO-PCP seem to have come around mid 2009 with a few reports scattered around. Interest seemed to be piqued again as MXE gained popularity, but its rise has been stunted deliberately by responsible vendors ensuring it is not easily accessed. Given the accidents we are already seeing with other popular, potent drugs, this seems sensible.
It is supposed to be approximately 5x more potent than MXE. I think this is a good assessment, although higher doses are less impairing which can make it seem more like 3x potency. As someone who finds 30mg of MXE pretty ideal, I would say I most enjoy about 6mg of 3-MeO-PCP.
Duration: 7-8 Hours, Oral
Description: A potent yet remarkably lucid and functional dissociative, similar in feeling to methoxetamine. A little less mad and barely sleep-depriving compared to MXE’s slight ability to ward off sleep.
I quite enjoy potent drugs as there is less material to taste and they tend to be overlooked somewhat by those who don’t have the correct equipment to deal with them. I also quite enjoy methoxetamine, and given that this was described as a clearer, more recreational version of this I was excited to try it.
Upsettingly, there was little information available about the exact durations and doses , even by comparison to other drugs. I saw one comment suggesting that potency was about 5 x that of methoxetamine, but had also seen many reports suggesting that it was actually lower than this. Ignoring the comparison to MXE I decided to go for 3mg as a starter.
I knew this would be a very low dose, even sublingually. I dissolved it and quickly noticed a pleasant numbness, considerably stronger that that of MXE. The effects appeared slowly and reached a ceiling pretty quickly. there was a minor dissociative headspace but little more to speak of. Comfortable that I knew where the bar was set, I decided to try 10mg in the next trial.
I held the 10mg under my tongue for just under hour, with the numbness similar to pins and needles where the solution sat. This faded by about the 45 minute mark.
The effects came on quite quickly, with a pleasant headspace and mood lift being noticeable fairly quickly. As the intensity rose I found myself really enjoying music. It seemed less distorted than with MXE, although when it was off I noticed my hearing seemed muffled slightly, to a similar extent of that caused by MXE.
I found the effects to continue building well after I swallowed the sublingual solution, suggesting it is poorly absorbed in this way. After swallowing the plateau appeared to come after approximately one hour. It lasted for a solid 2 hours, until I ate dinner, at which point I felt the effects began to wane very smoothly and gradually. At t+6h there were still unmistakeable effects, but they were much reduced, to a point where I felt capable as if I were sober. I was tired, and upon going to bed I found that I had no problem getting to sleep.
The whole experience seemed to be very clear and lucid. Although I felt fairly dissociated, I was easily able to snap in and out while typing, and the amnesic and visual fog which I get on others did not seem to be so present. There were also many of the introspective thoughts about my life, society and the future which I associate with MXE. I have always found these thoughts to be akin to the stereotypical ones expected but not obtained from classical psychedelics.
The similarities to ketamine are few and far between, with much less cognitive inhibition, sedation and ataxia by comparison.
Overall, very enjoyable, and certainly one I will repeat. I do not think its effects are worthy of a 10x price increase over MXE though.
The NBOMe series is much newer to the world of science than many of the substances I’ve written about, which were often discovered decades ago and only recently revived by those looking to sell them. They were discovered in 2003 by Ralf Heim at the Freie Universität Berlin and consist of an o-methoxybenzyl moiety added to the amine of the psychedelic phenthylamines.
This relatively simple modification increases the potency of many in the 2C-X series by an order of magnitude, having activity in the microgram range. Perhaps fortunately, useful in preventing accidental ingestion, they are orally inactive because of the vulnerability of the N-benzyl bond to metabolism in the liver.Although the oral inactivity limits its ability to be misrepresented as LSD, this does seem to be occurring and it is worth noting that, as a phenthylamine, it is unlikely to have the same safety profile as LSD at higher doses. Already there are anecdotal reports of vasoconstriction, possible fatalities and my own research resulted in light-headedness and ataxia.
Dosage: 0.5 – 1mg nasally. 800-1.5mg buccally.
Duration: 8 hours
Description: A powerfully visual psychedelic with relatively less of the psychedelic headspace. This makes for a drug with good popular appeal.
I found this to have quite a dissociative note. When typing I felt much as I do after ample amounts of MXE and when I later went for a cycle, at one one point I thoroughly enjoyed chuckling to myself at the idea that I was a head being cycled along by an autonomous body acting without the need for instruction.
The visuals are very intense, OEVs plaster everything with beautiful fractals and tracers are quite intense. It is no wonder that 25I has a reputation for being quite visual.
The short comeup following nasal administration makes it quite suitable for staggered dosing, in my opinion. This would make it much easier to gauge the dose to give a pleasant, more gradual comeup and a more controlled plateau.
The headspace is very clear compared to others of the same intensity, and I feel like it was much more manageable and less introspective, especially considering the high dose. I agree with the assertion that this makes it quite suitable as a more recreational psychedelic.
I decided to dose this in a rather hurried manner as the evening was approaching and I intended to sleep on time. Without properly refreshing my memory about the dosage I prepared a solution of 2 mg/ml in 40% ethanol and used a dropping bottle to measure 1.3mg. I used a flame to evaporate the ethanol and insufflated the liquid.
Within a few minutes I felt the alerts and within 5 minutes there were clear visual distortions. I knew that I was in for an intense journey and suddenly clicked that I had taken a dose more suited to sublingual administration, and these were considerably higher than nasal due to swallowing.
Within 15 minutes visuals covered everything, and upon getting up to use the bathroom I found myself light-headed and slightly ataxic. I was somewhat disconcerted by the catapault comeup, concerned that I would be unfunctional for 6 hours with intensity rising for two and thought I might have miscalculated the dose somewhat more severely than the mix-up I had already noticed.
I was concerned for my wellbeing but in no state to act, so I put on some music and retired to my bed. The visuals were incredibly intense and there was a noticeable tension and bodyload in my legs, further worrying me, When I was able to escape my worries and challenging thoughts the music was absolutely glorious and the euphoria strong. At one point, following the drop in a song I felt every sensation accompanying a climax, except ejaculation and made a mental note that I should not use GHB to get to sleep later in case the euphoria was “too much”!
Upon next looking at the clock I realised an hour had gone by and the physical maladies had almost completely subsided. Reassured by my still being alive and the fact that the intensity did not seem to be increasing any more my mood lifted immediately. The rest of the trip was enjoyed thoroughly as any over, with the visuals merrily plastering everything they could and the tracers surprisingly intense.
Overall I would be very keen to use 25I again, although without a doubt at a lower dose. Perhaps 1.1mg alone or 0.8mg when tripping with others.
Methylmethaqualone (MMQ) is a potent analogue of methaqualone (MQ), a depressant in the quaalude class. Methaqualone was popular recreationally until it was phased out of medical use in favour of the safer benzodiazepines. Since then supply has declined but recently a number of analogues have been produced.
MMQ is notably more potent than MQ, with little research surrounding its use in humans. Tests in mice indicated an increased tendency towards seizure and equipotency. Human experimentation has confirmed that seizures are possible at high doses.
Some concerns have been raised that its seizure induction suggests may be an AMPA agonist, meaning it would be excitotoxic and have an anti-nootropic effect, but having tried it once before hearing this and noticing no such effects I do not suspect this to be significant, if it is true at all.
Dosage: 12mg vaporised, 20mg sublingual, ~60mg(?) oral
Duration: 30 minutes vaporised, 90 minutes sublingual.
Description: A short active sedative with pleasant effects. Nothing particularly special
I initially vaporised to get a feel for the effective dose. I loaded 12mg into the vaporiser. The HCl salt vaporises easily without burning. Constant inhalation is easy but large hits are horrible to inhale. The effects come on quickly and are typical of depressants. I noticed that it is somewhat more mood-lifting than benzodiazepines and has a bit more of a fun quality to it aside from the stardard anxiolytic effects of benzos. When I noticed my nose was bleeding I stopped vaporising immediately. I am not sure of the cause. The total duration can’t be more than 30 minutes.
The second trial was 18mg sublingually. The compound has a peculiar taste – not very bitter but almost sour, with a sting-y sort of taste. The after-taste is similarly odd. The effects come to a peak within around 20 minutes and are as before, pleasant. This peaked at about 20 mins and started to fade after 30. I would say it lasted about 2 hours total but I redosed 22mg after 1.5 hours as I found the original underwhelming. There were no adverse effects from this.
I tried this at a later date orally with no sublingual absorption. I initially dose 15mg, and while it was noticeable, it was very subtle. I added another two 15mg doses over the next hour and a half, but these added little. Fifteen minutes after these I added another 30mg which had a similarly small effect. I stopped at this point. This surprised me from the same batch as before, I wonder if the short duration indicates a fast metabolism and oral absorption is simply not fast enough to keep up with this in low doses. More research required.
Overall I would rate it well, if it is indeed not harmful. It is very pleasant with a duration just long enough to be suitable for a social setting.